Lateral lisp

[baumann]

Andreab: i totally agree with you. I would love to hear some "tricks" on how to help some of my students with that r. One trick that helped one of my students was having him imagine that he was swallowing his tongue. This really worked for him so may be something you may try. Email me info if you get any please!!! Thank you. my email address is: candlbaumann@foxinternet.net

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Andreab:
Are you getting the idea that many people could use info on correcting lateral lisps? Thanks for including some ideas in a previous message. I think Kathy should market her ideas and AGS should publish. While we are at it, does any one have any surefire techniques for the pesky /r/ sound? I would love to see a book written by some experienced clinicians with ideas about different things to try with all those sometime difficult sounds. I've been doing this a long time and I still run into difficult cases and wish that I had one more trick to pull out of my hat. Anybody know of a book like this that has already been written? Thanks!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[marycl]

Are you starting with /er/ first? If not try that. Since /r/ is a glide you are "gliding" from /er/ to /u/. I wish I could use phonetic transcription here. Often times just the contrast of the tongue placement between a low, front vowel to /er/ helps the child produce /er/.

[klynch]

I hate to be a little late on the request, but is there anyway, I too could get a copy of the /s/ techniques? My email address is ecu1996@aol.com Thanks so Much!
Kerry

[baumann]

Hi, does anyone have any information on the Kessler's program? I know that others have mentioned it here, but I haven't read a reply. Would someone let me know if they know anything about this program? Thanks a lot.

[brav]

In response to your request for tricks to produce /r/ Here's mine. Have the child produce the /i/ sound while focusing on the sides of the tongue contacting the inside of the molar ridge. (back of tongue spread)Once they can do that have them say /i/ and then freeze in that position. Next have them move only their lips into a pucker. They can then produce /r/ (really "er") without any movement of jaw, tongue etc. We use the exact same tongue position for /i/ and /r/. The only change is the lip posture. Many of my kids find the robot voice (glottal fry) production of /r/ easier than a normal voice production. Either way though if they freeze in the back of tongue spread position they will produce /r/ easily.

[Kelly_Lummus]

Kathy,
I would love a copy of your lateral lisp program that everyone is asking for!!
thanks,
kelly kelly_lummus@yahoo.com

[Debby]

Brav, You are so right on with your technique. I have used it for a long time and it is a good one.

[kathytx]

If you are looking for information on /r/ techniques, try "The Wizard of R's" by Daymon Gilbert. I got my copy through Pro-Ed.

This is a whole book devoted to remediation of /r/. I've heard him speak several times. The information was very useful.

[meme102]

An idea I have tried for year is to use a tongue depressor UNDER the tongue (like a thermometer), tell the child to relax like a ragdoll while I LIFT and elevate the back of their tongue...bite down with JUST your teeth..no lips...and say /er/. Many years ago one of my kids dubbed it the "magic stick" so I sometimes use that term also. I will say that often the kids often don't LIKE using it but when they see the results they don't mind it plus it is MY attitude toward it that helps them to accept it! After they get pretty good WITH it...then we work on getting the position....gently pulling it out...and seeing if they can do it without the tongue blade... eventually phasing out the tongue depressor altogether. No, it hasn't helped ALL but is has helped MANY when no other technique would. hope this is helpful

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Andreab:
Are you getting the idea that many people could use info on correcting lateral lisps? Thanks for including some ideas in a previous message. I think Kathy should market her ideas and AGS should publish. While we are at it, does any one have any surefire techniques for the pesky /r/ sound? I would love to see a book written by some experienced clinicians with ideas about different things to try with all those sometime difficult sounds. I've been doing this a long time and I still run into difficult cases and wish that I had one more trick to pull out of my hat. Anybody know of a book like this that has already been written? Thanks!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[DeannaV]

Regarding /r/ (vocalic):

Yes! The "Magic Stick!" That's how the kids refer to it. I also use the flavored tongue depressors from the Super Duper Co. I teach the child how to use the "stick" themselves and within a few sessions they are on their way.

In regards to the lateral lisp, I have also had the child substitute a /th/ sound for the distorted /s/. This way they can get the correct air stream going. After two sessions, I tell them to begin pulling the tongue back and make the /th/ *smaller*. This has been a huge success for some of my kids and once they get it, they have been dismissed from the program within a couple of months. It also helps if the child is motivated and most seem to be. I have also used the /t/ method and that has worked also. A lot depends on the child and what method works best for that individual.

[AmyH]

Kathy,
Your therapy technique sounds really popular! Will you please email it to me also? My email is askipper42@hotmail.com Thanks so much!

[SLPerson]

Kathy, can you send that prized information on lateral lisps to me as well at shvarghese@juno.com. Thank you.

[jenc]

Kathy, I've been at this for a long time, but I too would appreciate a copy of your suggestions. Many thanks,

Jennifer Code jcode@iprimus.ca

[aline]

Lynn or Kathy, would it be possible for you to send me a copy of your lateral lisp information that you have? I would greatly appreciate it. (alinemurillo@hotmail.com)

[Debby]

Kathy, when you have time would you forward your info to me also? My address is debbyhutchins@juno.com